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greenough · May 13, 2011, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Im looking for a build that will clear MT really fast to gain Faction for title. When i do it i do use a BU so a build that will benefit with use of essence or con set would be preferred. Please don't post a build that you "think" will work, it would be nice to see a picture of a fast clear.

I'm currently running a WOTA and hero's with these builds and have pretty much run outta ideas, can't seem to get any faster no matter what i do. I did run a bunch of sf ele's that was much faster than the build I'm running now but it was extremely sketchy and for every fast run i had 3-4 that were in the other direction due to wipes.

Please don't say swap this skill for that if your not going to go test it out first, see too many threads with people tossing up suggestions without actually testing it out themselves.

Just looking for something that will breeze threw the VQ to max title faster. I see a lot of challenge threads so just think of it as that, fastest run wins and helps out

Thanks.

EDIT: forgot to add times, i've been getting 23 minute runs and im looking for a build that will do 20 or below.

Gabs88 · May 13, 2011, 07:32 PM // 19:32

Morostov Trail is relatively easy and many of the groups are small. You also have absolutely no hex removal in the entire zone.

I'd say AP caller, 5 air eles, a minion master and a UA monk possibly is your best bet when using a BU. No energy problems, no conditional skills, no spirits falling behind, large area on the AoE and with as much as 5 elementalists vs those small groups along with the AP caller doing his thing would be able to near instapop the smaller groups and at the same time be able to cope easily with the bigger ones. Just don't use a bomber MM as he will likely fall behind, use a more conventional AoTL approach for minion walls when aggroing multiple groups.

greenough · May 13, 2011, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by Gabs88

Morostov Trail is relatively easy and many of the groups are small. You also have absolutely no hex removal in the entire zone.

I'd say AP caller, 5 air eles, a minion master and a UA monk possibly is your best bet when using a BU. No energy problems, no conditional skills, no spirits falling behind, large area on the AoE and with as much as 5 elementalists vs those small groups along with the AP caller doing his thing would be able to near instapop the smaller groups and at the same time be able to cope easily with the bigger ones. Just don't use a bomber MM as he will likely fall behind, use a more conventional AoTL approach for minion walls when aggroing multiple groups.

I'm very aware that it is an easy vq, I'm looking for speed, have you tested that build and if so whats the time?

Cors Seel · May 13, 2011, 08:19 PM // 20:19

I just did a MTSC vanquish and now i understand why you use double Ineptitude^^. Got a few deaths when i aggro'd 3 or 4 groups and when the sin boss popped up. Time (33 min) wasn't spectaculair since it was the first time in a very long time i did this vanquish and i needed to backtrack.
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Almost all damage comes from physical attackers so blind is a must-have here.

I think gabbs is right and air eles work quite well here.
There mostly are 3-4 foes balled up which is ideal for Invoke Lightning. Give at least 1 hero Blinding Surge and make sure you got EBSoH and weaken armor and you're ready to go.

AndrewSX · May 13, 2011, 08:42 PM // 20:42

VQ Ferndale instead of MT.
Or join MTSC Ally.

Joking, but routes and tactics/builds used could be useful and give you some ideas.

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_MTSC_Kurzick_FFF

Also, thread with texmod overlays to have fastest route in your map:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t10476800.html

Times will be anyway slower cause using only heroes doesn't allow splitting (see wota route), unless you find a helpful friend.

Gabs88 · May 13, 2011, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by greenough

I'm very aware that it is an easy vq, I'm looking for speed, have you tested that build and if so whats the time?

Testing I leave to you. So drop the attitude. Explanation on why Air eles will work great below:

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Originally Posted by Cors Seel

I think gabbs is right and air eles work quite well here.
There mostly are 3-4 foes balled up which is ideal for Invoke Lightning. Give at least 1 hero Blinding Surge and make sure you got EBSoH and weaken armor and you're ready to go.

Exactly, ineptitude and esurge is better off vs bigger groups. Most of the groups in Morostov consist of one or two mob types and 3-4 mobs at most. Usually either two ranged + 1 melee or 2 melee + 1 ranged or 2+2. They also spread cracked armor which is important for an A\Me AP sin because the way that build works is to use Archane Echo + double EVAS.

You also don't have split capacity with a single player anyhow so quick spiking will then be better.

greenough · May 13, 2011, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewSX

VQ Ferndale instead of MT.
Or join MTSC Ally.

Joking, but routes and tactics/builds used could be useful and give you some ideas.

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_MTSC_Kurzick_FFF

Also, thread with texmod overlays to have fastest route in your map:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t10476800.html

Times will be anyway slower cause using only heroes doesn't allow splitting (see wota route), unless you find a helpful friend.

I've been in a mtsc guild and the times varied from 19-24 minutes. i guess i should of added the times I've been getting and what i want to achieve. Currently I'm getting consistent 23 minute runs and I'm looking for a build that will get me consistent sub 20's. i ran an sf ele build that got under 20 but it would fail a lot. Basically want mtsc times without the waiting to form groups.

AndrewSX · May 13, 2011, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenough

I've been in a mtsc guild and the times varied from 19-24 minutes. i guess i should of added the times I've been getting and what i want to achieve. Currently I'm getting consistent 23 minute runs and I'm looking for a build that will get me consistent sub 20's. i ran an sf ele build that got under 20 but it would fail a lot. Basically want mtsc times without the waiting to form groups.

Cool thing, i'll look foward it too then....when i'll have time to try and toy with builds. Consistent 24 mins runs isn't bad at all using heroes only btw.

Plutoman · May 23, 2011, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Got a 35 minute run, give or take a small bit, using 2x E-surge, 1x Ineptitude, 3x invoke ele (including me, heroes with fall back), ER prot, and BiP resto. That's with 3 wipes due to overaggro, carelessness, unfamiliarity, and a bit of backtracking. I imagine I can pull it under 25 minutes with ease, due to the way it went, and using a second ineptitude may be better.

Whirl E Vic · May 23, 2011, 01:23 PM // 13:23

I did the same VQ many times and really had a hard time getting down below 22 consistently. I was using the old banishing strike + high spec splinter weapon to literally blow up the ranger/rit warden groups in 1-2 swings. There are limitations simply to how fast you can run around the map if you're going as one 8-man group. 2x fall back may help a bit. I used to use pretty much the exact Xandra bar that you have, but later settled on Rt/P for another copy of fall back, and Find their weakness! to really finish off any stragglers, and used a RoJ smiter to carry SoH and the like.

Edit: Had the epiphany that I was running with 3 heroes - Xandra Rt/P as above, Dunk as Mo/Me smiter and an OoU MM N/P with fall back. Used Danika, the Professor (poor mans ST) and the wallow hench.